Follow-up queations from my latest webinar with X-Rite

On Thursday, December 13’th, I did a webinar with X-Rite about novice colormanagement and how to print with control.

Here are a few of the follow-up questions we received after the webinar:

Q: I’ve bought colormonkey photo and created a profile for my Canon Pixma 5150 and GP-501 paper. Unfortunatly, even if I calibrated my screen and created the paper, I still have color shifts. Any suggestion ?

A: Even though the Colormunki is a great tool for calibrating your monitor and printer there are a few limitations. I feel bound to inform you that the Canon Pixma 5150, is not really a photo printer you can expect to deliver the same results as of a dedicated photo printer such as the Pixma Pro-1. With a limited ink set, you will not get the same gamut and some colore might not be possible to produce. Try different types of paper, such as the Canon Pro Platinum and see what results that would give you.

Q: Is the Colormunki Photo less accurate than the devices that can be used with the i1Profiler software?

A: The hardware it self is extremely accurate, but there are limitations to the software that comes with the Colormunki Photo, i.e. less color patches and control over the profile building with more. If your serious about creating paper profiles, then you should consider hardware such as the i1Basic 2, i1Photo 2 or i1Publish.

Q: When calibrating our monitor using the i1Profiler software, should we use automatic display control for all monitors?

A: You can use automatic display control with most Apple monitors, iMacs and Macbook’s.
Some dedicated desktop monitors also support this feature. In any case, set it to “on” and if its not supported by your monitor you’ll be notified, and will have to adjust brightness, contrast and white balance manually.

Make sure that if you own a Hardware calibrated monitor such as the Eizo CG series or NEC Spectraview, you should use the dedicated software that came with your monitor.

Q: Hi do you have to set your monitor back to the original setting [ mac cinama ] before you start to profile ???

A: No you do not. Apple displays do not have the option to change anything other than the brightness. This will be adjusted correctly once the calibration process starts.
If you own a “PC” monitor with the option of changing brightness, contrast etc, then I would advice you to go into the menu of your monitor and reset it to its factory default setting.

Q: In Martin Evenings LightRoom 4 book print resolution is (by Jeff Schewe) recommended to upsample to 360 if native is less than this and otherwise upsample to 720 if 360 < native < 720 – and lieave it if native > 720. Do You agree on this ??

A: Yes I do. As long as you’re printing on an Epson Printer.
If you own a Canon printer there are other number to consider: 300, 600 & 1200.

Q: Is the Icc profile the same for PCs & Mac?

A: When creating a custom print profile, it will work on both PC and Mac.

Q: is there a difference in profiling a monitor for b/w image processing vs color?

A: When calibrating your monitor, all RGB values are “corrected”. If your are to show a grey of 128, 128, 128 and your monitor shows 134, 128, 128, this will be corrected.
So no, there is no difference in calibrating your monitor for B/W work vs Color.
(PS: most monitors today are 8 bit, which gives you 256 levels of gray from white to black. Still, some high-end monitors can offer 10 bit, which will give you 1024 levels of gray.)

Q: Please repeat what you were saying about plastic paper.

A: What I was saying was that there are several kinds of paper, and that more photographers should try 3’rd party papers such as Canson-Infinity, which offers “real” paper, with greater dMax and bigger gamut. Even though its the coating that comes in contact with the inc, the paper itself sets the feeling you want for your print.

If you attendet the webinar and still have unanswered questions, by all means feel free to contact me. Actually, that goes even for those of you who didnt attend the webinar:)

-jr-

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4 thoughts on “Follow-up queations from my latest webinar with X-Rite

  1. Hello, great webinar! One question when you are printing the patches on the PRO-1 from the i1Profiler, on the Canon printer driver where do you turn off the color management? Do you got under color matching then do I choose Generic RGB? or do you do something else? Thanks for your help in advance

    • Hi Natasha! Sorry for my delayed response, Ive been out traveling.
      If and when you print using the i1Profiler, the color settings are already turned off. If by any means this is not the case for you, you could try printing using “Adobe Color Printer Utility” (<— retarded name, I know) which can be found here: http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/no-color-management-option-missing.html

      You would then export the targets as tiff's and then print them using this software that turns off all color management.
      I would still urge you to print using the i1Profiler.
      Are you on a Mac or a Pc?

      • Thanks for your reply, you are right the i1 Profiler is already turned it off. BUT the ColorMunkiPhoto does not. So when I’m printing the color chart and it takes me to the Canon printer driver, I can select colorsync. There its set to “Automatic” in that drop down menu I can choose Generic RGB? or any other profile I have installed on my MAC.
        Where do you turn off the color management? Do you got under color matching > ColorSync > then do I choose Generic RGB? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks you from very sunny LA, hope its not to chilly in Norway

      • When you use any kind of software that doesn’t automatically cancel or disable color management you should select the “Canon Color Matching” option. You will find this under the color matching tab in the print driver. The software you’re printing from should be set to “managed by printer”.
        Printing color charts from the ColorMunki software should disable all color management, and it’s a bit weird if that’s not the case for you as well. I would have to know more on how you print your charts, step by step, if I’m to give you a more detailed answer.
        But what I really dont get, is why you would use your ColorMunki to create print profiles? The results are horrible, and I would much rather stick with the profiles made by the paper manufacturer than use those from a ColorMunki. Your best option is of course to make profiles using your i1Profiler and i1Pro 1/2.

        What kind of paper do you print on?

        Spring is just about to arrive here in Norway so its getting better. I just returned from a job in Mexico a few weeks back, which gave me the strength and motivation to keep going until late april. I really (really!!) need it to be warmer and sunnier here by then, lol…

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