The new Canon IPF 8400 large format printer!!

Behold, it has arrived!!

Today I (finally) received the IPF 8400, Canon’s newest large format printer! 

Its the most awesome printer on the marked, and Im really psyked to start testing it. 

It is huge!

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Installing the ink tanks is easy:

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Pull up the handle  bars,

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and insert the tank (all of them)… (on both sides!)

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Next we got ready to install the print heads. This is done by the user unlike other brands…

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Me pointing at where Im going it insert the print heads!

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Insert test media. Canon runs a sort of hardware calibration the automatically the first time you start the printer up.

After this is done you should also do a manual (its really automatic, but you have to start it) calibration.

This way, when you make a customized ICC profile for one paper type, it should work very well with any other x400 series, such as the

6400, 6450 or another 8400.

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Its Canon!

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I (of course) had to do a large test print. Waiting until tomorrow was not an option!

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After setting it up, I drove up to Canons Norwegian headquarter and went through, the different media types they have.

We placed an order of 6 different media types thats should arrive from Canons main storage facility in a few days:

  • premium semi-glossy paper 2, 280 gsm
  • satin photographic paper, 240 gsm/10 mil
  • premium rc photo luster, 255 gsm/ 10 mil
  • glossy photographic paper, 240 gsm/10 mil
  • durable matte polypropylene banner, 130 gsm/7 mil
  • polished rag, 300 gsm
Ok, so this post was really just about me bragging about my new best friend, sorry(!).
I’ll write a more thorough report about user friendliness, image quality and everything else
one would like to know as soon as I’ve had the chance to do some more testing.

 

On Friday a representative from Canson Infinity is coming to visit my 

studio with lots of high-end media. O’boy am I looking forward to this weekend:D

My i1Publish Pro2 unit is going to be running hot!

 

-jr-

 

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19 thoughts on “The new Canon IPF 8400 large format printer!!

  1. Hi Jon Rune, looking forward to seeing you first testprints on Baryta Photographique, Platine Fiber Rag, Rag Photographique, BFK Rives and all the others.

  2. Hi Jon, do you still need your i1Publish Pro2 , we have the same printer if i let it calibrate the paper itself i get a perfect print on different materials. How do you load the icc profiles in the printer? Or do you let Photoshop manage the profiles?
    With Regards, Wil

    • Hi Wil.

      To create paper profiles you still need your i1Display Pro2, yes.
      Whenever you calibrate your ipf8400 large format printer its “only” resetting the printer to a default setting, making sure your specific printer will match any other ipf8400(or any other x400 series).
      It will not calibrate your paper for you. When creating a paper profile, you’re actually creating a connection between that specific paper and your printer.
      You cannot load icc profiles into your printer, but as you just said print via Photoshop, or Lightroom like myself.

      If you’re happy printing without an icc profile thats ok, It might look “good” but it will never be “accurate” 🙂
      Another thing worth mentioning; since the ipf x400 series has the ability to calibrate itself to a standard, this will also mean than the ICC profiles will stay more accurate over time.
      What paper do you normally use?

      Regards,
      JR

      • We have the printer one week, I am looking for the right papers to match ower Kodak Led printer papers, semigloss and glossy. We have the Kodak not any more.
        I can measure profiles with our barbirie Photospectrometer.
        Tomorrow a Canon sales man is coming fot the papers.
        We want to print on: Photo satin, gloss, some kind of Barita paper, Photo Rag and canvas and a metallic kind of paper. Our company is in the Netherlands (Holland) Europe.

      • I would urge you to test Canson Infinity. They have wonderful papers, Baryta Photographique and Platine Fibre Rag are my two favourites when it comes to glossy media. You should also try their Rag Photographique a superb matt media.
        Download ICC profiles from http://www.canson-infinity.com/ if you dont want to make your own. I’m not familiar with Barbieri Photospectrometers, sorry.

  3. We have a ipf8300 two years old and its kapoet, the wanted to fix it the started with a quote of € 500,- after some new parts it still didn’t work so the gave us a extra quote for € 1000,- again some parts where put in the machine and still nothing. On monday the came with two men the bill was then total € 3000,- euros and we sad stop no more please this where canon mechanics.
    the rep came bye and offered to sell us a ipf8400 for the price of the repair € 3000,- euros.
    We are thinking about it ………, the prints where always very good. (Netherlands-Holland)
    We do canvas-photo-flag and poster printing

  4. Thanks for the information you are providing.
    Would you say that on Matt paper ( coated or uncoated ) the Dmax of the Canon is comparable or better than an Epson printer ( 9900 )

    i ma planning to get a canon IPF9400

    • Hello Paul.

      Of all the media I have tested (4 hahnemuhle, 1 harman, 1 ilford and 7 canson’s), Canon surpasses the Dmax that of Epson. In general Epson has a slight larger gamut volume, but once you get below L*45-40 the Canon printer delivers way more details, which is both measurable in the final print(by a spectrophotometer), visible by eye and mathematically proven/seen in the ICC profile.

      The highest Dmax I’ve seen so far is that of Canons Baryta which shows a L*of 2,8 = Dmax 2,5087! (yeeks!)
      Hope this helps!
      🙂

      -jr-

      • Thank you
        I knew it was true for glos paper but i was not sure as per mat paper. or uncoated paper.
        How is the loading of large cut sheet doing?
        And the enlignement on the sheet or a cut sheet.
        Epson is rarely able to perfectly center ( always a 1ml to 2 ml errors- using photoshop )on a cut sheet or a roll

        thanks

        paul emile rioux
        http://www.landcuts.com

      • On my fav matt paper Canson Rag Photographique 310g I get a blackpoint of L* 16,4 = Dmax of 1,67, same paper on a Epson gives me L*18,4 = Dmax of 1,58.
        So yes Canon is “better” even on mat paper.

        So far I have only loaded A2 and A3+ cut sheets, it takes about 4-6 seconds to load one perfectly aligned. (waiting for A1, to arrive)
        When i first made the switch from Epson to Canon I was not too happy with having to manually load and align the cut sheet paper. Well, that changed after about the first time I printed on cut sheet. The only thing Epson holds over Canon is that on a Epson the paper goes straight through the printer, whiles on a Canon the paper curves. Even though Id prefer the paper to go straight through, I have had NO problems with the Canon way of feeding cut sheets. No paper bend, no curving no nothing. My conclusion is that the only time you would need the media to go straight through like on a Epson is if you print on very thick and stiff media.

        -jr-

      • For a general user the profiles provided by the paper manufacturer should be “good enough” but they are far from as good as they can be.
        I create my own profiles with the help of an X-Rite i1Pro 2 and its software i1Profiler + another few secret steps 😉
        I would not recommend choosing custom made profiles from a ColorMunki over those made by the manufacturer.

      • Thank you
        I shall get a final decision done around december 15
        I need also to upgrade My i1 to the version 2 and get iProfiler also.
        As per the special recipes for the ICC you ll let me know if you
        would accept sharing some information that would save us some time.
        In other term I will be happy to get tutorials ( on an hour basis to a cost to be establish)

        Merci

      • Feel free to contact me directly at post @ optimofoto.com if you are in need of a one 2 one session.
        Good luck with your decision making! 🙂

  5. I have a canon IPF 8400 and its giving me an error code (e602-405a). i was informed it was HDD unit problem. i have replaced the HDD but yet still the code keeps on showing. can anyone help?

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